King James Version · Under Rome
2 Esdras 4
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1And that was sent unto me, whose name was , gave me an answer, 2And said, Thy hath gone to far in this world, and thinkest thou to comprehend of ? 3Then said I, Yea, my . And he answered me, and said, I am sent to shew thee three ways, and to set forth three similitudes before thee: 4Whereof if thou canst declare me one, I will shew thee also that thou desirest to see, and I shall shew thee from whence cometh. 5And I said, Tell on, my . Then said he unto me, Go thy way, weigh me the weight of the , or measure me the blast of the wind, or call me again the day that is past. 6Then answered I and said, What man is able to do that, that thou shouldest ask such things of me? 7And he said unto me, If I should ask thee how great dwellings are in the midst of the sea, or how many springs are of the deep, or how many springs are above the firmament, or which are the outgoings of : 8Peradventure thou wouldest say unto me, I never went down into the deep, nor as yet into hell, neither did I ever climb up into . 9Nevertheless now have I asked thee but only of the and wind, and of the day wherethrough thou hast passed, and of things from which thou canst not be separated, and yet canst thou give me no answer of them. 10He said moreover unto me, Thine own things, and such as are grown up with thee, canst thou not know; 11How should thy then be able to comprehend of the Highest, and, the world being now outwardly corrupted to understand the corruption that is evident in my sight? 12Then said I unto him, It were better that we were not at all, than that we should live still in wickedness, and to suffer, and not to know wherefore. 13He answered me, and said, I went into a forest into a plain, and the trees , 14And said, Come, let us go and make war against the sea that it may depart away before us, and that we may make us more woods. 15The floods of the sea also in like manner , and said, Come, let us go up and the woods of the plain, that there also we may make us another country. 16The thought of the wood was in , for the came and consumed it. 17The thought of the floods of the sea came likewise to nought, for the sand stood up and stopped them. 18If thou wert judge now betwixt these two, whom wouldest thou begin to ? or whom wouldest thou condemn? 19I answered and said, Verily it is a foolish thought that they both have devised, for the ground is given unto the wood, and the sea also hath his place to bear his floods. 20Then answered he me, and said, Thou hast given a right , but why judgest thou not thyself also? 21For like as the ground is given unto the wood, and the sea to his floods: even so they that upon the earth may understand nothing but that which is upon the earth: and he that dwelleth above may only understand the things that are above the height of . 22Then answered I and said, I beseech thee, O , let me have understanding: 23For it was not my to be curious of the high things, but of such as pass by us daily, namely, wherefore Israel is given up as a to the heathen, and for what cause the people whom thou hast loved is given over unto ungodly nations, and why of our forefathers is brought to nought, and the written come to none effect, 24And we pass away out of the world as , and our life is astonishment and fear, and we are not worthy to obtain mercy. 25What will he then do unto his name whereby we are called? of these things have I asked. 26Then answered he me, and said, The more thou searchest, the more thou shalt marvel; for the world hasteth to pass away, 27And cannot comprehend the things that are promised to in time to come: for this world is full of unrighteousness and infirmities. 28But as concerning the things whereof thou askest me, I will tell thee; for the evil is sown, but the thereof is not yet come. 29If therefore that which is sown be not turned upside down, and if the place where the evil is sown pass not away, then cannot it come that is sown with good. 30For the grain of evil hath been sown in of , and how much ungodliness hath it brought up unto this time? and how much shall it yet bring forth until the time of come? 31 now by thyself, how great fruit of wickedness the grain of evil hath brought forth. 32And when the ears shall be cut down, which are without number, how great a floor shall they fill? 33Then I answered and said, How, and when shall these things come to pass? wherefore are our years few and evil? 34And he answered me, saying, Do not thou hasten above the most Highest: for thy haste is in to be above him, for thou hast much exceeded. 35Did not the also of ask question of these things in their chambers, saying, How long shall I on this fashion? when cometh the fruit of the floor of our reward? 36And unto these things the gave them answer, and said, Even when the number of seeds is filled in you: for he hath weighed the world in the balance. 37By measure hath he measured the times; and by number hath he numbered the times; and he doth not move nor stir them, until the said measure be fulfilled. 38Then answered I and said, O that bearest rule, even we all are full of impiety. 39And for our sakes peradventure it is that the floors of are not filled, because of the of them that upon the earth. 40So he answered me, and said, Go thy way to a woman with child, and ask of her when she hath fulfilled her nine months, if her may keep the birth any longer within her. 41Then said I, No, , that can she not. And he said unto me, In the the chambers of are like the of a woman: 42For like as a woman that travaileth maketh haste to escape the necessity of the travail: even so do these places haste to those things that are committed unto them. 43, look, what thou desirest to see, it shall be shewed thee. 44Then answered I and said, If I have found in thy sight, and if it be possible, and if I be meet therefore, 45Shew me then whether there be more to come than is past, or more past than is to come. 46What is past I know, but what is for to come I know not. 47And he said unto me, Stand up upon the right side, and I shall expound the similitude unto thee. 48So I stood, and saw, and, behold, an hot burning oven passed by before me: and it happened that when the flame was gone by I looked, and, behold, the smoke remained still. 49After this there passed by before me a watery cloud, and sent down much with a storm; and when the stormy was past, the drops remained still. 50Then said he unto me, Consider with thyself; as the is more than the drops, and as the is greater than the smoke; but the drops and the smoke behind: so the quantity which is past did more exceed. 51Then I , and said, May I live, thinkest thou, until that time? or what shall happen in those days? 52He answered me, and said, As for the tokens whereof thou askest me, I may tell thee of them in part: but as touching thy life, I am not sent to shew thee; for I do not know it.
The 1611 translation, public domain. Its original printing included the Apocrypha, which is why the deuterocanonical books can be read here. Notes and cards are EKLI’s own.
The world at this moment · Under Rome, 63 BC to AD 100 ›
Judea as a client kingdom and then a province. Roads, garrisons, taxes, crucifixion, and a common Greek language that let a message travel the empire faster than any before it.
- Rome
- The republic tears itself apart in civil war and comes out as an empire under Augustus. What follows is two centuries of relative peace across the whole Mediterranean, enforced by legions and paid for by taxes, with safe roads and safe sea lanes. Every one of Paul's journeys depends on that.
- Judea
- Governed first through Herod the Great, a client king of enormous ability and enormous brutality who rebuilds the temple into one of the wonders of the ancient world, then directly by Roman prefects. Crucifixion is the standard penalty for sedition and is used often and publicly.
- The wider world
- Greek is spoken from Spain to Syria, which means a letter written in Corinth can be read in Rome without translation. Jewish communities already exist in most major cities, which is where the first Christian preaching lands. Mystery religions, imperial cult, and philosophy all compete in the same marketplace.
- Further afield
- The Han dynasty rules China and trades silk westward along routes that touch the Roman world at second hand. In Britain the Roman conquest begins within a decade of the crucifixion.